1/7/2011 1:15:19 PM
Greg Dent
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Hi everyone! Since Oathbound Seven is now finally out, I'm curious what people are more interested in seeing for the next products. We have a ton of ideas. We have a mini adventure coming out at the end of the month, but after that we have a few options. I'm curious what people want to see first:
1. The Oathbound Monster Manual (monsters got cut from OB7 because of space)
2. A Full eclipse adventure
3. Anvil/Vault sourcebooks
4. Eclipse Underground sourcebook
5. Other
6. Don't care
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1/7/2011 3:24:59 PM
ShadowcatX
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I would like an eclipse pdf, followed by anvil / vault source books (or the Eclipse underground). I'm not terribly interested in a monster manual, there's already a couple monster manuals out for pathfinder and I'm enjoy your ideas rather than your crunch.
I would very much like alternate theories about what the god at the center of the forge is like and how he was defeated (having only 1 answer in print makes it feel too official). Regardless, keep going with the little poems that are exerts from the oaths of binding, I love those.
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1/8/2011 5:01:01 AM
Derek Holland
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As much as I really, really want the monster book, I have to go with the other domain sourcebooks first. Once the Kiln is out (being the last domain to be described) then produce supplements for all the domains as well as for the Forge as a whole.
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1/10/2011 4:08:29 PM
Greg Dent
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Interesting. The problem with doing the Anvil type sourcebooks first is they take a lot longer as we have to start from scratch. It might take a year to do one as opposed to a few months for a monster manual or an adventure. Unless OB7 does really well, I don't know the company can survive throwing itself into something like that right now. I could farm the work out, but I've gotten mixed results with that method.
I think alternate ideas for the bound god is a good forum topic. I don't know that it's worthy of its own product though.
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1/13/2011 12:42:02 AM
Paulon
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While I'd like more about the so-far undetailed regions of the Forge, I also think some sort of monster support would be a good idea, even if it's just a web enhancement updating the monsters from the original Oathbound: Domains of the Forge book to Pathfinder stats.
My personal order of preference would probably be Anvil/Vault sourcebook, monster book, then more about Eclipse, but given the quality of what you've done so far, I'll buy whatever you do release first. If the best choice economically is the monster book first, go for it.
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1/14/2011 1:23:09 PM
Greg Dent
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So, I'm seeing little to no interest in adventures here. Do most people prefer to make their own then or adapt adventures from another source? Not worrying about the adventures would certainly free us up for other stuff.
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1/15/2011 7:13:01 AM
Paul Grosse
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I like adventures, but it's more for giving me a better vision into how the world designer envisions things. And plus I think having one introductory adventure into each domain frees the DM up at first from having to relay all the core concepts of the domain on his own. He doesn't have to make as much on the fly, which if he (or she) hasn't ingested the book throughly might clash violently with something later down the road.
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1/15/2011 7:43:58 AM
Derek Holland
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I am not a fan of adventures. I prefer locations with hooks that I can integrate into a campaign.
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1/20/2011 4:25:27 AM
Derek Holland
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One of the key concepts of the Forge is that it takes people, creatures and items from across the multiverse. How about some books that showcase that?
A book of magic and technology that has:
Spells, magic items, alchemy and sorcerer bloodlines in standard Pathfinder format.
Magic in different traditions and how they influence each other.
Racial magics.
Psionics and variants thereof.
Epic level magic. How about spellcasters that have moved into orbit or just outside the system of the Forge?
Advanced technology from slug rifles to fighter jets and starships.
Doomstriders and airships.
A book of races that includes:
New races with several that are not humanoid.
Variants of old races. They can be mechanical or cosmetic. This should include humans that are mechanically identical to the PH but are very different in culture and appearance.
Templates, suggestions and rules to create more variants.
New PrRs.
A creature book that includes:
Templates that relate to locations and the effects of the Forge's abundant magic.
Magivores. Lots of magic, no reason they wouldn't be on the Forge in force.
Aliens and other science fiction creatures.
Loose adaptations of popular monsters. You can't say Godzilla or zerg but you can design monsters in their image.
Write ups for the unique dragon and supervampires from Eclipse (the wolf/bat vampires, not the queen).
Location books that include:
The fortresses. At least one and hopefully all of them.
The Wellspring.
Specific cities and ruins.
The moons and suns. Even if the rust moon is a dead rock it deserves a map at least.
The prison and its maze.
And above all, you don't have to design all of these (ruleswise) on your own. Don't be afraid to use open content from lots of different sources. There is a huge goldmine out there that very few seem to be willing to tap.
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1/28/2011 12:14:03 AM
Paulon
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I don't actually mind the idea of adventures. The suggestion by Nylanfs of an introductory adventure for each domain gives some idea of the intended tone of the area which would be welcome. But my personal priority would place them as less important than sourcebooks about the Forge because the adventure basically gives details on a small area, while the sourcebooks like Eclipse give the tools and information useful to either create one's own adventures or to adapt adventures from another source to the Forge.
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2/3/2011 4:54:35 AM
Derek Holland
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An idea for a small pdf- the weather of the Forge. How does the constantly changing seasons affect the climate?
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2/11/2011 7:24:36 PM
Paul Grosse
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Well for one thing there would be more erosion since there would be more freezing and thawing.
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2/20/2011 4:36:52 AM
Derek Holland
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If you decide to include the molesti (from Mysteries) in the new critter book, how about some better customization of offspring? The monster is pretty nifty but the selection (better armor and extra limbs) is a bit thin.
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2/23/2011 6:27:36 PM
Greg Dent
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Derek Holland wrote:
If you decide to include the molesti (from Mysteries) in the new critter book, how about some better customization of offspring? The monster is pretty nifty but the selection (better armor and extra limbs) is a bit thin.
Good to know! I'll send that idea to David.
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2/24/2011 6:44:15 AM
Saeth
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I'm putting in a vote for another fluff book because fluff never has to be updated and can work with any setting. Eventually I want a source book for each region of the Forge, but I can imagine just how time consuming that is. Perhaps breaking some of that content into a couple of different books is the way to go? So maybe keep all the races/monsters in their own book and talk about them there. Then a book for the locations/cities that includes plot hooks (guilds, holidays, ect) and NPCs?. I'd love to see a book that focus on different methods for magic in the Forge as well as how tech is integrated into various cities.
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6/5/2011 3:40:11 AM
Derek Holland
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I don't know if you want to do any generic (ie non OB) books, but evolutions could be used as racial advancement ala paragon levels. It would be a nice variation.
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6/10/2011 10:50:07 AM
Greg Dent
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Derek Holland wrote:
I don't know if you want to do any generic (ie non OB) books, but evolutions could be used as racial advancement ala paragon levels. It would be a nice variation.
We aren't planning on doing much more with the evolutions stuff right now, but we have been working on an alternate magic system that is not campaign specific.
A big book of evolutions might be cool. I'm not sure how well it would sell. Maybe a short one that costs only 3.99 or something.
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8/7/2011 3:46:54 AM
Derek Holland
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If you do have a book on evolutions, how about some that are aimed at non-humanoids? The two in OB7 (deep and human) are nice but how about some meant for PCs that are elementals, fey, aberrations and plants?
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8/18/2011 11:20:03 PM
Greg Dent
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Derek Holland wrote:
If you do have a book on evolutions, how about some that are aimed at non-humanoids? The two in OB7 (deep and human) are nice but how about some meant for PCs that are elementals, fey, aberrations and plants?
That's a good suggestion. I'll add that to the idea list.
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11/12/2011 4:12:12 AM
Derek Holland
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So far there are 3 races that are evolutionary offshoots due to the effects of the Forge- wyrgith, wild frey and war valco. How about some more? It would be interesting to see how thorns, pickers, silvers, haze, dovers, faust, deep fey and others have subspecies that are location specific (at least in origin).
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